mmd1 wrote:it's a hangover from live play in the early days where players could surrender in the first few rounds without taking a loss. at some point i think the surrenders and losses were tallied.
kemal81 wrote:I never understood the need for surrender stat anyways. If a player thinks they can't win the game then what's wrong with surrender even if it's the first round. They get a loss you get a win. Isn't that satisfying enough already? Do we really need to advertise someone's surrender especially in a game like A&A? There are times when I captured London in round 2, and blocked any help that might come to liberate it and my opponents will surrender. This game is already over even if I don't have the required number of VC's. But why should the surrender tally of my opponents go up? Are there really players who look for this stat and if it's high, they decide to play or not against this person?
Having said that, I still encourage the players not to give up easily just because you had a first round bad dice. Focus on the game and see if you can change things around. I kinda see those games as my game challenge of the season. I make my opponents earn their wins or sometimes I upset them and pull the victory they thought they had it. For example my game challenge of this season is the one I mentioned in viewtopic.php?f=36&t=3490
On top of what you see there I also had a bad Germany opening. But to this date, I am still fighting. However, all that doesn't mean I drag a game once I realize the game becomes unwinnable. That's just me and that's all I want to say on this subject.
Sammog wrote: I don't want to go into a game with someone that is going to boost after R1, frankly. I've played two games recently where I've had terrible R1s (pure luck) losing 5 units in Ukraine, doing 1 hit and losing 5+ inf in WR. I won both. I don't play this game for "wins", I play it for good games. If I see someone has a high surrender stat compared with their win stat, I usually don't play them.
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